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Birth Data for Howard:

Howard Duff

November 24, 2020

11:00 AM

Bremerton, Washington

Birth Data for Ida:

Ida Lupino

February 4, 2020

11:00 PM

London, England

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This Lovers Report is divided into 4 chapters.

Chapter 1 compares your temperaments and personalities. The issues described in Chapter 1 become particularly powerful if you are married or live together. Idiosyncrasies or quirks in another person's personality do not bother us as much if our relationship is a casual one. For example, if one person is neat and tidy and the other is sloppy, this is more likely to become a concern if you are married than if you are only seeing each other occasionally.

Pay close attention to the issues described in Chapter 2 because these are the most important themes in your relationship. For example, if themes of romance and sexual attraction are emphasized, then you can count on this relationship being a passionate one. However, if romance and sexuality are hardly mentioned at all, then this relationship will not be a passionate one. Note also that the material in Chapter 2 is presented roughly in order of importance, so that the material presented at the beginning of Chapter 2 is the most powerful.

Chapter 4 describes issues in your relationship of less importance than those presented in Chapter 2. Chapter 3 describes situations and circumstances that arise if you have a close, long-lasting relationship.

If a statement appears to contradict another statement, then your roles are likely to alternate. For example, a statement that Howard is more aggressive than Ida, and another statement that Ida is more aggressive than Howard, means that you alternate roles, with Howard sometimes being the leader and Ida being the follower, and sometimes just the opposite. Also, read the statements carefully, as it is likely that a careful reading will reveal different kinds of aggressiveness or areas in which the aggressiveness is likely to express itself.

To make the most of this report, combine this astrological analysis with other things that you know about each other. For example, we have assumed that you are opposite-sexed (assuming that both of you are heterosexual, otherwise same-sexed). Physical attractiveness, age, religion, education, family and cultural background will affect your relationship as well. The material in Chapters 2, 3, and 4 of this report describes the magnetism between you, but does not describe your individual natures. For example, suppose that Chapter 2 makes little mention of romance and sexuality, but the Natal Reports for each of you indicate that each of you has extremely strong romantic and sexual desires. In this case, marriage is not likely to be successful! However, if romance and sexuality are not important to either of you, then the lack of passion in your relationship is not likely to be as much of a stumbling block.

Your birth chart interpretation is based on the positions of

the planets at the time of your birth. For the benefit of

students of astrology, these positions, along with other

technical information, are listed below:

Positions and Data for Howard:

Sun position is 1 deg. 55 min. of Sagittarius

Moon position is 17 deg. 45 min. of Libra

Mercury position is 28 deg. 18 min. of Scorpio

Venus position is 12 deg. 59 min. of Scorpio

Mars position is 24 deg. 32 min. of Cancer

Jupiter position is 17 deg. 05 min. of Capricorn

Saturn position is 15 deg. 42 min. of Gemini

Uranus position is 4 deg. 21 min. of Aquarius

Neptune position is 28 deg. 05 min. of Cancer

Pluto position is 0 deg. 38 min. of Cancer

Asc. position is 17 deg. 20 min. of Capricorn

MC position is 17 deg. 57 min. of Scorpio

2nd cusp position is 19 deg. 26 min. of Aquarius

3rd cusp position is 4 deg. 47 min. of Aries

5th cusp position is 5 deg. 28 min. of Gemini

6th cusp position is 24 deg. 26 min. of Gemini

Tropical Zodiac Standard time observed.

GMT: 19:00:00 Time Zone: 8 hours West.

Lat. and Long. of birth: 47 N 34 03 122 W 37 53

House System: KOCH

Positions and Data for Ida:

Sun position is 15 deg. 21 min. of Aquarius

Moon position is 22 deg. 32 min. of Scorpio

Mercury position is 22 deg. 29 min. of Capricorn

Venus position is 23 deg. 37 min. of Aquarius

Mars position is 3 deg. 04 min. of Libra

Jupiter position is 1 deg. 37 min. of Gemini

Saturn position is 10 deg. 46 min. of Leo

Uranus position is 23 deg. 13 min. of Aquarius

Neptune position is 5 deg. 27 min. of Leo

Pluto position is 3 deg. 45 min. of Cancer

Asc. position is 20 deg. 30 min. of Libra

MC position is 27 deg. 04 min. of Cancer

2nd cusp position is 18 deg. 07 min. of Scorpio

3rd cusp position is 17 deg. 14 min. of Sagittarius

5th cusp position is 25 deg. 00 min. of Aquarius

6th cusp position is 22 deg. 41 min. of Pisces

Tropical Zodiac Standard time observed.

GMT: 23:00:00 Time Zone: 0 hours West.

Lat. and Long. of birth: 51 N 30 0 W 10

House System: KOCH

Outgoing and progressive, both of you enjoy busy life styles that keep you on the go. Both of you enjoy meeting new people, traveling, and keeping up with current events; even in later life both of you will stay abreast of current trends in fashion, music, arts, literature, science, and politics. Howard tends to be a bit more philosophical than Ida, and likes to have a sense of mission and purpose, and is sometimes prone to grandiose visions and exaggerated hopes. Neither of you is particularly sentimental and your relationship may be very friendly but somewhat detached; fortunately this is not likely to be viewed as a problem by either of you. You both are independent; with this partner you can have the space and freedom you need. Overall, your temperaments and interests are a bit different but blend well and this should be an enjoyable, interesting relationship.

Howard is friendly, sociable, and agreeable, with a gracious, personable manner that others find very congenial. Howard enjoys people and wants so much to be liked and to be surrounded with pleasantness that Howard often avoids confronting people and dealing with anger and conflict in personal relationships. Ida, on the other hand, has a quiet disposition that masks much emotional complexity and sensitivity. Light, superficial social interaction doesn't interest Ida at all, and, in fact, frequently makes Ida feel separate and lonely.

Ida feels a whole range of powerful emotions - desire, jealousy, rage, fierce loving attachments or intense loathing -and Ida cannot live without relating on a very deep, intimate level, which often includes conflict and confrontation. In fact, if things become too easy and mellow, Ida will (consciously or unconsciously) provoke some trouble in a relationship. Ida seems to thrive on emotional drama and intensity, while Howard very much prefers harmony, sweetness, and peace. Ida is drawn to the hidden, dark, mysterious side of life and of people, while Howard focuses on the light and good in others. Generally Howard accepts people as they appear to be, while Ida probes and analyzes and is more suspicious. Also, Ida can be manipulative and controlling, and may be subtly dominating in this relationship.

You share a tendency to be discontent with yourselves and your efforts, particularly if there is no imaginative, spiritual, creative, or humanitarian element to your activities. Howard, in particular, is prone to feelings of aimlessness and discouragement unless surrounded with others who also have creative aspirations or higher ideals. Ida, however, is apt to be supportive and encouraging, and at your finest, the two of you can share your dreams with one another.

There is a great deal of enthusiasm and optimism in your relationship. You inspire each other to expand your horizons, explore new possibilities, and improve your financial and social situation. You have a lot of good will towards each other, and also allow each other a lot of freedom. You do not smother each other. You may, however, engage in risky speculations together that are driven more by optimism and hopefulness than by well thought out plans, and consequently fall far short of your expectations. Overall, however, this astrological influence is a positive one of good will and optimism.

The two of you probably felt like old friends right from your first meeting. You have a natural affinity for each other, and it is very likely that you will remain life-long friends. You enjoy each other's company, feel very at home with each other, share many of the same interests, preferences, and tastes. You have a direct, intuitive understanding of each other that allows you to communicate and share your feelings and thoughts very openly with each other. Howard tends to "mother" and care for Ida, and Ida easily can become dependent on Howard. In fact, a mutually dependent relationship is very likely.

Stimulating conversations or hot debates characterize your relationship. Howard challenges Ida's ideas with vigor. Ida may respond by doing the same in return. Although these challenges and criticisms are made with good intentions, they easily precipitate arguments. Both of you must be careful to respect each other's beliefs and not belittle each other's views or your relationship will deteriorate into feelings of mistrust, nasty tempers, and the bad habit of throwing darts at each other.

Ida is very much aware of Howard's beauty or attractiveness and finds Howard very persuasive and appealing. However, your personal styles, tastes, and preferred leisure activities are often not in harmony, and you need to make adjustments and allowances for one another's differing personal tastes and desires.

You have a strong affinity with one another, an instinctive rapport that enables you to know one another very well, almost from the start. A basic compatibility exists which helps you to overcome the stressful or problematic facts of your relationship. You have a natural sense of belonging with one another, and partnership of some kind is likely to develop and flourish.

Howard is very dedicated and loyal to Ida, with a strong desire to fulfill the responsibilities and demands of this relationship. Howard is willing to go the extra mile and make sacrifices without complaining, for the benefit of Ida and the relationship. Ida is encouraging and supportive of Howard, inspiring a sense of security and well-being. If the two of you engage in business activities or marry, you will find that you work well together on meeting the problems that arise and you can count on each other to be responsible and trustworthy. There is a deep sense of mutual commitment and dedication that holds your relationship together, even when you go through difficult times together.

You work together very well on projects, and you make an excellent partnership in any joint venture, sport, or business activity. Sexual attraction is also very strong.

You stimulate and arouse one another's feelings and desires, the physical attraction between you is very strong, and you are quite harmonious and compatible sexually. You are also highly fertile together (assuming there are no organic or physical impediments).

Ida is very supportive of Howard, encouraging Howard to be direct, honest, and expressive of personal wishes and needs. Ida is also very "turned on" by Howard! This can be a very creative union.

This relationship may very well lead to marriage, but there are some major negative tendencies that you both need to try to avoid. The proclivity to marriage stems from the strong sense of commitment, reliability, trustworthiness, faithfulness, and stability that this relationship offers. You both feel that you can count on each other and dedicate your lives to each other. However, this stable, reliable relationship can easily become boring, unexciting, and downright cold over time. Howard, in particular, is likely to feel stifled by the relationship. Howard may feel neglected, unloved, and unappreciated. Your tastes and interests are often different and you sometimes simply don't connect with each other on an emotional level. To prevent this relationship from drying up, you both must maintain your involvement in activities that inspire and uplift you, and maintain your friendships, hobbies, and entertainment you love -even when your partner does not share your enthusiasm for these activities.

You inspire, inflame, vitalize, and energize one another and you can accomplish much together, but you can easily become overly zealous, even fanatical, in your pursuits. It is also likely that your objectives will sometimes be different and you will feel at cross-purposes with each other. You often end up in power struggles, being very competitive with each other, and trying to manipulate or dominate one another. Howard, especially, can override or undermine Ida's efforts.

Sexual attraction is very strong, but as with other things, one of you is likely to come on too strong to the other and this may be offensive to your partner. There is a driving, compelling, somewhat impersonal quality to your love-making at times.

An electric, exciting quality infuses your relationship and you encourage one another to be bold, confident, and assertive. Vigorous physical activities, from love-making to sports, are good outlets for the vital dynamic energy you generate together.

You bring out the restless, wandering, intellectually curious and open-to-adventure sides of one another. Big visions for the future, plans of seeing the world, and/or greatly expanding in some other area of your shared lives are key themes in your relationship. Together, you are idealistic, optimistic, hopeful, expectant of good things to come, and generally philosophical about failures. One of the gifts inherent in your relationship is faith.

Inevitably you two will bite off more than you can chew and/or get involved in projects that either grow too quickly or somehow become unmanageable (bigger than you expected). Grandiose claims - not based on fraud but upon over-optimism - will be a problem at sometime in your relationship, too. Overall, however, together you have the resiliency and good fortune to bounce back, time and again.

The two of you are compelled to come together by powerful and largely unconscious forces. You may meet or become close under particularly fateful and difficult circumstances, such as during a personal crisis or some mutual loss, which gives your relationship an intensity and depth that few other relationships could compare to. The emotions that will surface between you two will be extreme. You could easily become obsessed, with one of you playing the pursuer and the other much more reluctant but unable somehow to resist. The feeling is something like being under a spell, deeply and irresistibly attracted but somewhat against your conscious will or better judgment.

One of the purposes of this relationship is to completely transform your attitudes toward love and relationship. The fire between you can purify your motivations and your experience of love, but it can also burn you badly. In either case, you will certainly learn deep truths about yourselves through your interactions.

As a couple, you will inevitably come up against considerable frustration, limitations, and restrictions on your freedom. Unfortunately one or both of you feels very cramped and stifled by routines established in your way of relating to one another. You may find it difficult to completely let go and/or relax with one another, regardless of whatever positives the two of you have going together. And others may be equally ill-at-ease in your presence when you are together. Not that there is open conflict, necessarily. It's more chronic and subtle than that, more of an irritable tension, and it may seem that you never quite gel or stabilize. Only if you both give each other much leeway and tolerance, and express your tensions before they become excessive, will any long-lasting harmony develop here.

Whatever you get in this relationship comes to you through hard work, struggle, and a willingness to endure through hardships and overcome some daunting odds against the two of you. You'll feel at times that when you try to do anything together, you come right up against a massive brick wall. This may consist of restrictive outer circumstances, your own fears and insecurities, or a combination of the two. You inhibit one another, often out of fear or a desire for security.

One of you plays the "heavy" in the other's experience, or through no fault or intention of your own, could become a weight, a burden, an oppressive or limiting factor in the other's life.

It is likely that both of you will mature, and become truly self-reliant and responsible, more through what you cannot have in this relationship than anything else. Rather than resenting the duties or deprivations, you can see them as necessary and ultimately strengthening. In any case, this will not be an easy relationship.

A soft, caring, nurturing love will grow between you. The willingness to be there for one another, a sweet devotion to one another, and a desire to protect each other are an essential part of your purpose together, easing any of the problems or difficulties you face as a couple. Children may well be a beautiful part of your lives together, for a feeling of family love permeates your relationship.

There is an aspect of the two of you being together that can be very tricky to manage. Even if both of you are decidedly realistic, practical, sensible people, when you are together you have a real blind spot. You cannot see certain problems in one another or in your relationship very clearly, and you may deceive yourselves or live on false hope regarding the effects of these problems - if you acknowledge them at all.

Emotionally you are extremely sensitive and "tuned in" to one another, so much so that you may be unable to distinguish your partner's feelings and moods from your own. You absorb and take on one another's emotions very readily. This blurring of emotional boundaries is the source of confusion or disorientation, and it may also give you the false belief that you can save, rescue, or fix the other person's dilemmas. If, however, you can avoid that trap, the two of you have an enormous potential for spiritual development together. Essentially, in this relationship the spiritual or soul needs take precedence over the practical or material concerns.

Yours is destined to be a profound emotional union. There is a compelling, irresistible, intense desire to know one another deeply, and to be together.

If you are seeking a light, casual relationship just for fun and good times, you may want to run away from this one - if you can! Inevitably, you will have powerful feelings of attachment, even jealous possessiveness, toward one another. This needn't be troubling though. Mostly it's just a testament to your strong bond.

If either or both of you tends to be too rational and intellectual, your relationship with one another will remedy that! You'll share deeper feelings and become much more open to your own inner emotional life through being together. In fact, you may well have come together after one or both of you suffered a significant loss or trauma, and were thus much more aware of your heart and feelings and those deeper concerns that crisis forces upon us. One of the purposes of your relationship is to experience the depths of which you are capable, with another person.

The two of you will compete intellectually or be sparring partners, arguing and hotly debating issues just for the mental work-out it gives you. You challenge one another intellectually and are not apt to become mentally lazy or bored in one another's company. A sharp but playful bantering or taunting, and rapid exchanges of words, will typify your communication with one another.

Directness, honesty, and forthrightness in expressing your opinions ensure that very little will be concealed for the sake of sparing the other's feelings. Put simply, telling the truth regardless of consequences, is a key factor in your relationship.

You also have an excellent sense of timing, and as a duo you can come to swift decisions which work out beneficially for you.

A great deal of disillusionment and shattered dreams can be avoided if the two or you are rigorously honest with yourselves and with each other. If either of you pretends to be more than you are, or misleads the other in any way, this can be your downfall as a couple.

Romantic illusions, images of an impossible Perfect Love, fantasies in which your partner is some kind of deity or savior -all of these can interfere with conducting a real human relationship with your partner.

You may have difficulty establishing boundaries with one another. "Everything you have is mine, and all I have is yours", "If it's your problem, it's my problem", and similar ideas are apt to actually entangle you rather than lovingly connect you with each other.

Neither of you has to be a perfect saint or Divine Love Incarnate! In fact, learning to discern the imaginary from the real regarding human love is certainly part of what this relationship is about.

Howard takes a keen interest in Ida's finances, assets, and talents, and Howard is likely to provide financial assistance and enthusiasm for Ida's projects and ambitions.

Ida embodies many of the qualities and attributes to which Howard aspires, and consequently Ida is a very interesting and attractive person to Howard.

Ida likes to confide in Howard, telling Howard many events and circumstances from childhood that no one else has been told.

Ida takes a great interest in Howard's career and reputation, and is likely to openly promote Howard's career, drawing recognition to Howard and "advertising" Howard's services and talents. Ida may be less sensitive to Howard's inner feelings and personal needs.

You enjoy planning financial strategies together, and Howard provides Ida with lots of ideas on business ventures, investments, and practical application of job-related skills.

Ida is able to talk to Howard in a very open, candid, uninhibited manner, and Howard appreciates Ida's point of view. This, however, can be taken to extremes, and Ida may sometimes try to persuade Howard to agree with, and follow, a certain point of view.

Regardless of how others view Howard, Ida finds Howard to be a very attractive and a beautiful person. Ida sees a great deal of charm and sweetness in Howard and is willing to go to great lengths to please Howard.

Ida loves to shower gifts upon Howard. Unless Ida is very careful with money, Ida is inclined to spend more money than is practical on Howard.

Howard challenges Ida's philosophical viewpoints and religious beliefs. There is the possibility that Howard will try to force individual views on Ida.

Ida is mysterious, intriguing, and charismatic to Howard, and the sexual attraction between you is strong. If you marry and later separate, disentangling your joint resources will be extremely difficult.

Howard loves talking with Ida, and, in fact, is prone to gossip a good deal with Ida. Communication is open and uninhibited between you and you find that you are able to discuss a wide variety of topics openly and freely with each other. Your conversations tend to go off in many directions with lots of digressions, and it is sometimes difficult for the two of you to stay focused on a single topic.

The warm and nurturing side of Howard is brought out in this relationship. If the two of you live together, it is likely that you will enjoy a high level of domestic harmony. You enjoy your times at home together and both of you contribute much to making a pleasant home life together.

If you are married or live together, you will find that finances and management of resources become a significant issue in your relationship. Howard is likely to be hesitant to freely provide and give as willingly as Ida would like. One of you often wants to keep certain assets owned individually and is unwilling to share them. The problem may be more subtle also, and one of you is likely to feel at times that the other is selfish and unwilling to share, even if you cannot defend your reasons for feeling this way. You are also likely to find that attitudes towards sexuality and love-making are different, and your moods are not always in sync with each other. You may wish your mate were more sensitive, or more aggressive (or less aggressive), more romantic (or less romantic), etc. On the other hand, if both of you are able to avoid the tendency to be selfish at times and withhold feelings, you may find that you are able to overcome old habits of extravagance, poor judgment and lack of discernment in financial matters. Illusions about romance can also be replaced with more realistic views.

Howard feels that Ida is a person who will be trustworthy, stable, mature, and committed to the relationship, and there is, indeed, a high level of security and stability that can be counted on in this relationship. Both of you feel comfortable making commitments to each other so if romantic attraction is also strong, then there is an inclination towards marriage. However, over time Howard may also find that Ida is critical of Howard's friends and discourages Howard from participating in many social activities. It is also likely that the two of you will discover that you have different views of what marriage is and what the commitment of marriage entails, and you may find that you have to work hard at structuring your relationship in a manner that is satisfying to both of you. For example, one of you may have more liberal views on marriage and the other be more traditional and old-fashioned.

Howard challenges many of Ida's deeply ingrained attitudes and many of the habits and personal tastes that are developed from early childhood. Howard often encourages Ida to break free from the past, although this encouragement is often subtle and not overt. Howard needs to be careful not to overlook the value of Ida's heritage, and you both need to be able to preserve what is good in the past without remaining attached to habitual tendencies that are not fulfilling or healthy.

Ida encourages Howard to use more creative, unusual methods for investing, developing financial stability and security. Ida may, for example, encourage Howard to invest in a new enterprise that presents big opportunities but is also risky.

Howard tends to have idealistic notions of what Ida can achieve in a worldly sense, and consequently Howard is likely to encourage Ida to pursue dreams without compromise. Ida needs to be careful not to lose sight of the practical details that are needed to meet these goals.

There is a great deal of fantasy and idealism in your relationship and both of you will need to work hard to maintain a reasonable level of realism and objectivity. Howard, in particular, tends to have an idealized view of Ida, and this can result in bitter disappointment later when the cloud lifts.

Howard challenges Ida's philosophical and religious views. You are likely to find yourselves in enthusiastic, and sometimes heated, conversations about politics and social issues. These conversations are penetrating and deep, and both of you are likely to find them illuminating, although often uncomfortable as well.

If your relationship is a long-term one, circumstances will develop so that you will both feel that you need to work intensively together to meet your goals, and you will have the shared motivation and dedication to do this. Ida, in particular, will work, without complaints, to get the job done. There is a mountain that you must climb together, and the chances are good that you will, indeed, climb it.

The two of you have a strong intuitive understanding of each other, and you inspire each other's imagination, idealism, and aspirations. You help each other to become clearer about your ideals and religious inclinations, and together you develop a greater sense of meaning and purpose in your lives. You help each other to look beyond the daily problems and issues of your personal lives and focus more on altruistic goals and broader issues.

The two of you frequently approach work and goals in very different ways, and consequently you are inclined to step on each other's toes. Ida may feel that Howard is pushy or insensitive to all of the issues and concerns that are involved in a situation. You can work together very effectively, but it requires you to allow each other the freedom to approach problems in a very different way than you would. Very often you can accomplish more by working separately from each other on different aspects of a problem rather than attempting to work jointly.

Howard draws Ida out and makes Ida feel good, but Howard also encourages Ida to be extravagant or irresponsible at times. Howard challenges or dares Ida to be more of a gambler or more adventurous intellectually. The two of you have a lot of fun together and sometimes go overboard.

Howard is a stabilizing force in Ida's life, and offers steady, quiet support when Ida is in need. Howard may help Ida build a firm foundation and long-term security for Ida's life. It is easy for you to be committed to one another, both as friends and as lovers.

Ida needs to guard against the tendency to be critical, unsympathetic, and overly analytical of Howard's feelings, personal tastes, and habits. Ida may feel that Howard is overly sensitive to criticism, and refuse to acknowledge responsibility for the problem as well. Petty annoyances, minor disagreements, and bickering can be avoided only if you both learn to listen sympathetically and to communicate clearly with each other.

Issues of broad scope such as religion, philosophy, and politics play a major part in your relationship. You work well together in areas that require long-distance communication, mass media, or philosophical issues. Ida challenges Howard to take a broader, more inclusive view of any situation.

You enjoy sharing ideas about the arts, literature, and people but often you fail to understand each other and sometimes reach a complete impasse. Your feelings towards each other are sometimes misunderstood too, with one of you perhaps feeling more romantic and the other person feeling inclined strictly towards friendship without romance. Both of you will have to tolerate different points of view from your partner for this relationship to work successfully.

This is a relationship in which you both can feel free to change, explore, invent, try creative or unusual ideas, and express your more adventurous or unconventional sides. Together, you have an expanded sense of what is possible, and the confidence and enthusiasm you feel with one another enables you to "go for it"! You help bring out one another's originality and creative impulses.

Howard challenges, and may revolutionize, Ida's attitudes and religious beliefs, and Ida may open Ida up to a more spiritual outlook on life. You may find yourself having strange feelings or unexplainable psychic experiences together, even if you usually have not interest in such things.